A Pearl Harbor Mystery
How a 1940s Interstate Cadet trainer sent a famous airshow pilot on a journey to find a kindred spirit.
- By John Fleischman
- Air & Space magazine, January 2012
When Japanese aircraft began their assault (Nakajima B5N Kate bomber, lower right), Cornelia Fort was giving a flying lesson; she later documented the terrifying surprise in her logbook.
National Museum of the USAF; Texas Woman's University Libraries; Library of Congress; Photo Illustration by Theo
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The Underground Flying Club held onto N37266, flying it for the next 25 years. By 1971, the club had dwindled to two members. The airplane finally passed to a series of private owners in and around Honolulu. The last airworthiness application was dated 1973; in 1979, N37266 was sold in Honolulu for the last time. A few months later, it was registered in Newark, Delaware. From there it went to buyers in Texas, Arizona, Ohio, and now North Dakota.
When the airplane arrived in Minot, the city was sodden. It had been a wet spring, and the Souris River was rising, every day creeping closer to Pietsch’s airstrip and hangar. Pietsch started a small sandbag dike around the strip. It kept raining. By early May, he and an airplane buddy, Larry Eide, had a sandbag wall as high as their heads. By late May, with no sign of the river receding, Pietsch had flown out his flyable airplanes. In June, the water breached the dike, flooding his hangar to the rafters.
In mid-June, I rented a Hyundai and drove to Minot to check out N37266. Despite the inconclusive paperwork, Pietsch was now calling his purchase “Cornelia’s airplane.”
“Cornelia was right there on the forefront,” Pietsch told me later. “That was the start. That was the minute when it went from being a calm Sunday morning just like any other—then boom—it’s a world war in which millions of people died. And this airplane was there.”
Pietsch, Eide, and restorer Tim Talen wrestled the bare airframe, wings, and many boxes of parts onto Talen’s flatbed trailer, which Talen would drive to his shop in Jasper, Oregon. There, he would administer a full-bore, museum-quality restoration. Talen, who had earned a master’s degree in history before turning to antique airplanes, is the unofficial dean of Interstate Cadet studies. While the three men worked, Talen gave impromptu talks on how to recognize factory welds, how Interstate redesigned the original tail to gain 50 pounds of carrying capacity, and the mediocre performance of the Cadet’s military version, the L-6.
Interstate Cadets came into his life on a fluke, Talen explained. As a teenager, he’d hung around a small airport near his home in Chico, California, picking up enough of the rudiments of dope and fabric work to earn a few bucks. Noting his skill with wood and fabric, a customer offered him a set of wings off an unknown airplane. They turned out to be Cadet wings. Cleaned up and advertised in a western aviation newspaper, they fetched $500 from a grateful priest in Portland, Oregon, who dispatched them to a Catholic mission in Brazil that was flying Interstates. After that, Talen kept an eye out for Interstates. These days Interstates appear to return the favor, seeming to migrate toward Jasper, Oregon.
“The Interstate was the first aircraft that I got enthused about restoring to some sort of authentic condition,” Talen says. “Every one I’ve looked at since has given me another clue or tells me something that I didn’t know before about what it looked like originally.”
Compared to other trainers in the early 1940s, Talen says, the Interstate turned in better performance. “I’m sure all the Aeronca and Piper lovers would say I’m crazy, but I’ve flown them all. The Interstate is just a notch above. But it’s not brain surgery to figure out why. The Interstate came later on the market than these others, so it benefited from experience and from good design and good engineering. It shows up in the aerodynamics. It’s just a superior flying airplane.”
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Comments (6)
What a woman. Very inspiring. Great article:).
Posted by Paul Lewis on December 6,2011 | 02:37 AM
Was that woman called "Ma Woods?" Had a Flight School in Honolulu. EDITORS' REPLY: No; you might be thinking of one of the other civilians flying over Honolulu that day.
Posted by Denny craig on January 3,2012 | 02:36 PM
my father owned a cadet from 1951 til 1964.
Posted by thomas on January 18,2012 | 11:10 PM
My father bought N37266 in 1972 For $1500 I and my brother learned to fly in it. It was a great AC.
My father is the one that put the plexiglass door in to get better view see the field approved 337.
I knew it was flying during the pearl harbor attack they landed in a field close to Kaneohe Marine base which no longer exixt they did not even tie the aircraft down. It was not Margarite Woods she was flying another aircraft.
I kew her well during the 1972 fuel crunch she told us "Sonny I like your airplanes and that she would sell us fuel" any time she liked our airplane we had a Interstate Cadet and a Stinson 108.Unfortunately she passed away in the 80
If you want pictures when it was in Hawaii let me know.
Thanks
Pierre
spotthedog [at] att [dot] net
Posted by Pierre Michel on March 26,2012 | 10:32 PM
From reading the article, it seems that could be some confusion about the "N" numbers of these two aircraft.
Is it possible that she was flying "N37266", but thought it was "N37345" ? Such as, could the "N" numbers have been confused somehow ? What did she have available to have put
N37345 in her log book ? The article says that the SN of
"N37345" is 188. What was the SN of "N37266" ?
Has there been any explanation since January ?
Jim Warwick
Posted by Jim Warwick on May 14,2012 | 05:22 PM
Glad that my package to the Texas Womens University, of xeroxes from the FORT family documents, including the logbook, helped with the "N" number of Cornelia's CADET. That log simply says, "12-7 Cadet 37345 Cont 65..." The late George L Mothershed and I corresponded and he knew of the above. Alex Dorstling, the next owner of "Cadet N37266, serial 109" was also curious and asked me, yet may perhaps not passed on the difference between the two CADET airframes to the next owner.
You may read more of Cornelia Clark FORT's day within HIRANO's ZERO; AVIATION HISTORY, Jan 2009. PO1c Hirano later crashed his ZERO AI-154 at Fort Kamehameha within 15 minutes of his unit's attack on John Rogers Fielhd. A bit more about "Corny" (her school nickname) is mentioned in GHOSTS OF PEARL HARBOR; FLIGHT JOURNAL, June 2007...which is the combat history of George Welch, Ken Taylor, and John Dains.
I have tracked her morning's student to the Wisconsin/Nebraska area. Still on that search...sigh.
Cheers,
David Aiken, a Director: Pearl Harbor History Associates, Inc.
Posted by David Aiken on May 17,2012 | 05:27 PM