Legends of Vietnam: Bronco's Tale
One of the most versatile aircraft of the Vietnam War appears on the verge of a comeback.
- By William E. Burrows
- Air & Space magazine, March 2010
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“The backseater could do what several radio operators on a C-130 could do,” adds Jim Hodgson, who also flew the aircraft and is the executive director of the OV-10 Bronco Association.
The job was “locating the ground force,” says Darnell, “isolating them on the maps, finding out what kind of a jam they had gotten themselves into, and then orchestrating whatever support was available at the time.” When there was no action, a crew was assigned to a specific area for daily recon missions so they could become intimately familiar with it, and report any changes to the intelligence officers. “It was amazing that after a while you could tell if a stream crossing had been used or if vegetation had changed,” says Darnell.
Says Burin: “You’d notice everything: The farmers aren’t out in the field today. Why is that?”
With external fuel tanks, an OV-10 could fly for five and a half hours. In addition to the four machine guns, which were mounted in sponsons bolted to the fuselage, there was a centerline station for a 20-mm cannon. The aircraft could carry up to 2,400 more pounds of rockets, bombs, or missiles on the sponson attach points.
“For those of us right out of pilot training, it was a slug compared to the T-38,” says former Air Force pilot Brad Wright, “but boy, was it nimble. You could turn on a dime and make change. It wasn’t sleek like a fighter jet, but it was plenty functional. It was a fun airplane to fly. It was responsive, fully aerobatic, had great visibility and good fuel economy.” Like other OV-10 pilots, though, Wright says that the aircraft was seriously underpowered.
“You always want more power,” says Burin. “I think the guys flying the F-22 want more power. But a number of OV-10s were lost in sloping terrain because they just couldn’t fly out of it. And if you lost an engine,” he continues, “if you didn’t dump everything that was hanging on that airplane, you were going to crash.”
Although the maximum altitude in the airplane’s published specifications is 26,000 feet, Broncos could work from the treetops up to only 18,000 feet “in optimum conditions,” according to Burin, “but we rarely flew above 10,000 feet.” Likewise, the aircraft could be considered a short-takeoff-and-landing craft, but it could take off in the advertised 800 feet only “with a light load on a cool day,” Burin says.
The Marine Bronco drivers and their backseaters ordinarily flew at 1,000 or 1,500 feet, so were most threatened by ground fire. The Air Force flew higher, at around 4,000 to 5,000 feet. “They had a lot more stuff shooting at them,” says Burin, referring to flights over the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
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Comments (32)
As you can see from my email address, I was a Nail FAC out of NKP in 71-72. I was one of three pilots selected for the combat evaluation of the Laser OV-10 known as Pavenail which took place at Ubon Thailand with most of the missions flown into Cambodia. If you have any questions about that Laser system (which was removed from the OV-10's before they left SEA) I can help.
Posted by John W. Van Etten on January 24,2010 | 01:26 PM
I was a crew chief on ov-1o both with 20 & 23 tass and have often wondered what ever became of my best performing plane from 23 tass I set a world record with tail# 67-14671 I managed to keep it flyin for 212.2 hours in a single month!! like I said it was the best ,and its overall 6 month average was 176 hrs /month I really loved "671"
Posted by harry J aldworth on January 24,2010 | 01:43 PM
Great plane worth bringing back. The A-10 is a superlative CAS platform, but people should consider bringing back the A-1 which has fine loiter time and played an impressive role in providing cover for SAR helicopters touching down to rescue downed air crews.
Posted by Donald A. Petkus on January 24,2010 | 11:36 PM
I have seven and a half years on the OV10 and find it to be the best plane I have ever crewed and flown. I was on them at DaNang, NKP,McDill and Shaw AFB. I was the only enlisted Air Force NCO to be back seat FCF Qualified on the OV10. I would love to see it come back. Harry R. Shank Msgt Retired.
Posted by Harry Shank on January 26,2010 | 12:04 PM
Salutations!
I'm an avid model aircraft builder and currently preparing for my next project, which is building a 1/72 YOV-10D (55395). I was wondering if anyone from membership could help with a clear closeup picture of the logo painted on the vertical stab. I can't figure out what it is. The following a link to a picture of the aircraft in question w/ logo, but to far to tell what it is to make a decal.
http://www.scaleaero.com/yov10nogs.htm
Thanks,
Alex
Posted by Alex on January 28,2010 | 11:20 PM
For more information about the Navy's only OV-10 Bronco squadron, Light Attack Squadron Four (VAL-4) go to www.backpony.org
Posted by Dave on January 29,2010 | 09:01 PM
I remember seeing USMC Broncos at airshows back in the 80s and 90s where they'd pull the nose up in a high angle and troops with parachutes would slide out the back into freefall. Pretty neat trick to see.
Posted by Chris on February 8,2010 | 02:10 PM
I too have always been fascinated by the OV-10, but I have never flown or really been around one other than static display. While I find the concept of the comeback intriguing, there is one huge issue that no one has touched on, the UAV. While the man in the loop is a valuable thing in certain situations,(UAVs actually have men in the loop too) the UAV dose much the same job as an OV-10 would be called upon to do. The only real capability that the OV-10 has over the MQ-9 Reaper for example is the cargo bay. That might be good for Spec Ops resupply, but even the Fire Scout UAV has been tested in that role. What would be the real advantage?
Posted by John on February 9,2010 | 04:25 PM
I had the honor of serving with VAL-4 Black Ponies in 1970-71 at Binh Thuy as a plane captain on OV-10's. I am proud to have served as a Pony and to have worked 0n such a great aircraft as the Bronco was. Tom Poland
Posted by Tom Poland on February 12,2010 | 11:09 PM
Mr. Van Etten,
Are you the same Mr. Van Etten that worked as a pilot for Great Lakes Chemical Corp? If so, as a college student at a talk you gave I remember seeing one of your OV-10 "Home movies" shot in SEA. Any chance of you sharing that again on YouTube or something similar?
Bill Johnson, Maj(Ret),USAFR
Posted by Bill Johnson on February 12,2010 | 12:49 AM
I had the opportunity to work on the OV-10 while assigned to the 20th TASS during my tour at DaNang AB, Vietnam in 1971. It was a tremendously versatile airplane and I enjoyed working on them as an Instrument techinican. There is some discussion about bringing the Bronco back and hopefully it will return to service. Ken Brown, MSgt, USAF Retired
Posted by Ken Brown on February 13,2010 | 11:05 PM
RQST email address for John W, Van Etten.
(Note: I wrote the recommendation letter and made
the presentation to install the laser system in
the OV-10's at Ubon).
Stephen Hubert
433 TFS
Paveway I EDITORS' REPLY: We don't give out contact information. Please send your request, along with your contact information, to editors@si.edu and we will try to forward your request to Mr. Van Etten.
Posted by Stephen Hubert on March 17,2010 | 06:19 PM
Thank you for adding my grandfather Captin Steven L. Bennett. It means alot that people will never forget what sarcrifices one must make to insure freedom in our country. I just wanted to tell you thanks.
Posted by Jake buck on March 21,2010 | 12:44 AM
I was fortunate to have served with Light Atkron Four (VAL-4), the Navy's only OV-10A squadron. Our unit was based at Binh Thuy in 4 Corps and supported both SEAL and Riverine operations throughout the Mekong Delta. Our ordinance loads consisting of Zuni rockets, 2.75" 19 shot pods and 20mm Mk. 4 gun pods proved more than sufficient to control and decimate any target encountered.
It's viability might be suspect in the high threat environments in which ops are currently being conducted, but given the other candidates being suggested and the upgrades proposed by Boeing, it would be a great choice.
It is a very forgiving aircraft and a treat to fly.
Posted by Lynn Henish on April 12,2010 | 09:24 PM
Dear Sir
I want to ask please If some one may know by official records,"did The Royal Australian Airforce pilots any of them ever have flown North American OV-10 Bronco during the Vietnam conflicts in the 1960s plus have any of them stationed briefly in The Country of Australia" Sir.?
I am a Aviation Enthisiast and The North American 0V-10 Bronco Reccon Warhorse would have to be one of my favourite aircraft since I'm studying V.T.O.L.and S.T.O.L. etc.
Posted by Jeffrey Phillip Meadowvale on May 22,2010 | 09:46 PM
Need help locating 3 0v-10 pilots who were out of Danang.
These guys were wounded on hill 55 in Oct. 1971. They were
wounded by a mortar that also killed a US Army Col. and also
wounded others. Maybe you could contact other OV-10 organizations and I can find these guys. Their code name was Lopez.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You!
Tiger (code name)
Hill 55 (1970-1971)
Posted by Phil Mac on June 5,2010 | 02:02 PM
In response to Phil Mac - You may try contacting guys from the FACNET. Smitty
Posted by Matt Smith on June 8,2010 | 03:38 PM
They stood interceptor/alert duty in Korea as late as 1980, as I recall.
Two of them next to the jets in their respective bunkers at all times.
The NORKS had a WWI/construction biplane contraption (AN-12 Colt,IIRC) that served them as an air assault platform. Their idea of that was hanging on the end of a rope and barrel rolling onto the ground from them.
Osan had it written into their ABD exercise scenarios--
The Broncos were the only thing the USAF had slow enough to track them through the mountainous approaches and kill em prior to that point.
Posted by Jorge Wall on June 11,2010 | 05:05 PM
July-October 1970, 3 Army-Lockheed YO-3As were based at Phu Bai I Corps. The YO-3A had 2nd generation NVAP, IRI, and Laser Target Designator. (see www.yo-3a.com.) We had Marine Corps officer with us evaluating the YO-3A for the Marines. The Marines had tested the LTD CONUS on the YO-3A before coming over to join us at Phu Bai. I am in personal contact with the Marine Corps officer who was T/O on the YO-3A and he said he employed the LTD often and that it was his favorite target designator over the other target designator YO-3A, the, Infrared Illuminater. We believe this is the 1st use of an LTD on a fixed wing aircraft in Vietnam. Would love to know if anyone knows of any earlier LTD applications in Vietnam prior to July-October 1970 time frame.
Of Note the Mission equipment on the YO-3A was designed and built by Electro-Optical, a division of Xerox.
Any one interested in more information can contact me through the www.yo-3a.com website. Also, see http://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/stalker.html
Posted by Kurt Olney on June 22,2010 | 03:21 PM
Anyone still in contact with Hostage Rifle (Phil Smith)? We were Quonset hut mates at MMAF 1969.
I flew 46s with HMM-165 but having an OV-10 around was always nice - they were the shortest link to fixed wing air whenever we ended up in a shxt sandwich. As I recall, for a time the MMAF OV-10s were getting better KBAs than the F4s flying out of Danang.
Semper Fi, 'til I die!
Posted by Jeff Sinclair on June 28,2010 | 04:27 PM
Great bird, I served with it for 10 years off and on. The flight hour to man hour ratio and operating costs were the lowest in the Naval inventory, even in its advanced age and after two mods.
I imagine with modern mandrel type composite wing and airframe plus updates to its many mech-elec systems(60s tech)it would be the ideal low cost multi-purpose COIN platform; with even lower flight/maintenance ratios.
The LW-3B ejection seat had 0-0 capability...so the seats weren't a drawback when you were only 30 feet off of the ground with no chance of surviving a "silk only Bailout"!
Posted by Rick Barton on July 19,2010 | 04:37 PM
Hey guys, looking for any information,pictures Of my Uncle, or even his aircraft when it was whole. Captain William Allen Justice. His Bronco last 3 was either 787 or 788. Any info will be appreciated.
He was 28 and single when he died. Captain Justice(Bill) was a Covey Forward Air Controller assigned to the 20th Tactical Air Support Squadron at Da Nang. He was flying over Cambodia out of Pleiku(I believe he was actually out of NKP when he was hit) in an OV-10A. Bill Justice was hit by ground fire near Sre Mat close to the Tonle Srepok River and crashed in flames.
His Mom(my grandmother) died last month, so they are finally together. I will take her ashes to his grave and spread them there.
Posted by Dane Justice on September 15,2010 | 10:51 PM
I served with the 6251st TFW, BienHoa A.B., 1971 and 366th TFW DaNang A.B, R.V.N., 1971/2. We had the 01's and 02 Oscar Dogs, but don't recall seeing Broncos. My dad (WWII, Navy/U.S.C.G), Virgil Weatherby was an electronics engineer for North American Avation, Columbus Ohio, and worked for several years on OV-10 development. He also worked on an A2A "Hound Dog" I.R. guided missile, but not sure that was related to the Bronco. Dad passed away in 2001. I'm not so young any more, but still kick satans' butt whenever I can, serving in Gods' Army. Never quit, Huu-Baa!
Posted by Lee Weatherby on November 1,2010 | 01:29 PM
Maybe someone out there can help me.
I am looking for 2 or 3 USAF Officers with the FAC unit
LOPEZ. These officers were visiting Hill 55 {51st ARVN INF.REGT.} in Oct. of 1971. While they were there we were hit
by mortar and 122 rocket fire from Charlie Ridge. 2 or possible 3 of these guys were wounded. One was a Major all were taken to the 95th Evac. in Danang by Medevac Helicopter.
There was also a full Army Col. killed by the same round that
wounded these LOPEZ USAF officers. I was also there that day
and would like to make contact with at least one of these guys if they are still alive.Thanks for your help.
"TIGER" {call sign}
Posted by "TIGER" on November 8,2010 | 08:29 PM
I was in VMO-2 at Marble Mountain RVN in 69 and 70 when it was a dual aircraft squadron (Ah-1g and OV-10 A) I subsequently transitioned to fixed wing after the war and flew OV-10 A & D (the D was the Marine Corps NOGS - Night Observation Gun Ship - FLIR in a nose mounted pod with a laser designator slewed to the FLIR) I was the MAWTS instructor for the OV-10 in the early 1980's. It was a great bird to fly and the mission was one of the last eyeball (vs systems) missions in direct support of the Grunt on the ground. Semper Fi
Posted by Paul Pratt on September 7,2011 | 10:11 PM
I was one of the three enlist men that brought the first ov-10's to nam.We came by ship to camroon bay with Capt Carpenter.Where they was de-preserved and flown to Marble Mountain.I Worked in the metal shop.Great plane to work on. Sgt Anderson (Hostage ande')Give me a shout.SEMPER FI
Posted by Douglas k. Anderson on November 1,2011 | 06:53 PM
I liked the OV-10, I was in fuel sys. NKP. I would say it was the best all around aircraft. I worked on QU-22, And 02s.Then, went to th 56TH.
Posted by gerald love on May 7,2012 | 06:30 AM
Dane Justice, send me a note at ted.peck [at] gmail [dot] com. My dad Bob Peck was flight school classmates with your uncle. My family set a lei on Capt Justice's grave at Punchbowl today.
Posted by Ted Peck on May 28,2012 | 12:56 AM
I ran 28 recon missions with the 3rd Recon Bn, 3rd Marine Div. in Vietnams I Corps tri border area in 1969. We had Broncos provide lifesaving close air support in 16 of the missions. To all of you great OV-10 pilots that got us home...a big THANK YOU from all of us in the 6 man Recon teams that owe our lives to your bravery.
Posted by Floyd Nagler on June 16,2012 | 11:31 PM
I flew the OV-10 from 1997 to 2006. The best flying experience ever. the Philippine Air Force still has a number of the airplane. I'm still nostalgic every time I see one and every time I fly over southern Philippines where I flew most of my combat experiences against secessionists. I'm truly proud I was once a Bonco Jock!
Posted by Richard gonzaga on November 1,2012 | 10:54 PM
My Father was a crew chief for Captain Steven L. Bennett airplane in June 29th 1972. They said his service records where destroyed in a fire... so we have no proof that he was ever in Vietnam... Does anyone know how I can get proof that he was there in country. any help would be gratefully appreciated...
Posted by John Hamilton on April 13,2013 | 02:07 PM
Crew Chief on tail#666 at George AFB 1985 any one know the history on this bird it had been shot up in SEA. By the size of the holes inside looked like 23 mm. Got to fly it as well all the way to Texas, did ok after I eased up the death grip on the stick. Going up and down from breathing.
Posted by Jeffrey Counts on May 16,2013 | 09:37 PM