The Misty Mystique
Over Vietnam, F-100 pilots flew fast and low. Later, they hit the heights.
- By Mark Bernstein
- Air & Space magazine, February 2013
(Page 4 of 4)
When Irving’s F-100 was hit, his GIB said the pair had to eject. Irving said no way. Moments later, Irving agreed it was time to eject, but this time his GIB voted no. The aircraft reached 23,000 feet, but its hydraulics had been destroyed and Irving couldn’t control it. Losing altitude quickly, the two men bailed out over land. A bit more than an hour later, they were picked up by an HH-53 Sikorsky helicopter, commonly known as the Jolly Green Giant. The helicopter pilot was making his first rescue, and instead of hovering and pulling Irving up to safety, he started flying sideways, with Irving dangling in a rescue harness and dodging tree limbs. Said Irving at the reunion: “I may be one of the few people to get a Purple Heart for having been injured by a tree.”
There were worse fates. Seven Mistys were killed. Four were captured. Thirty-four were shot down, landing either in the South China Sea or in North Vietnamese-held territory.
Do Misty pilots today think the risky missions paid off? “I did control some memorable attacks as a Misty,” says Tony McPeak. “But the fact is, neither Misty nor anybody else succeeded in stopping traffic down the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Mission not accomplished.”
Historian Richard Hallion says that Mistys laid the groundwork for future air tactics: “Misty FACs were crucial to the success of strike aircraft operating in high-threat areas where SAMs [surface-to-air missiles], anti-aircraft fire, and possibly MiGs could be encountered. If the absence of the kind of sensors and precision weapons available today limited the results of such attacks, it is still fair to state that the Mistys were the direct forerunners of the F-16 killer scouts used so successfully in [Operation] Desert Storm a generation later.”
In a conflict that brought many no sense of accomplishment, most Mistys believed they were making a difference. One-time Misty commander P.J. White describes his best work as attacks he directed near Quang Tri on a North Vietnamese artillery field that was shelling U.S. Marines across the Demilitarized Zone. Jere Wallace, flying GIB with White, recalls: “We were up before dawn so we could verify the flashes of the guns,” which had a range of 25 miles.
The shelling of the Marines went on for a week, and White remembers waiting patiently for the U.S. strike aircraft to hit their targets. In general, “you couldn’t tell if it was a truck, tank, or tractor that was hit,” says White, who went on to become the first commander of Red Flag, an aerial combat training exercise. In the end it didn’t matter. “We destroyed them,” he says, referring to the artillery that had been attacking the Marines.
There was never any solid measure of how much southward-bound North Vietnamese armament Mistys helped demolish. On one successful mission during the 1968 Tet Offensive, 79 trucks were destroyed, and the pilots believed that such successes would have been more frequent had there not been technical shortcomings involving bombing accuracy and the lack of a capability to operate at night. Whatever the number of trucks or arms destroyed on a mission, the pilots knew that for at least the next day of the war, life for U.S. troops on the ground was safer.
Mark Bernstein writes on American history. His next book, John Joyce Gilligan: The Politics of Principle, a biography of Ohio’s leading postwar Democrat, will be published this fall by Kent State University Press. He wrote about the restoration of the Memphis Belle B-17 (Oct./Nov. 2008).
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Comments (29)
Mark Bernstein has truly captured the essence of "Misty" however, the day that Misty 41 was shot down, 20 Nov 68, I was the GIB and Frank Kimball was in the front seat. We did indeed debate the merits of getting out right away or staying with the airplane as long as we could. We chose the latter and managed to get well away from the target area. Along the way we became passengers just along for the ride. At 23000 feet the engine flamed out, we had no hydraulics/flight controls, but the trim was perfect and we became one of the worlds fastest gliders. The terrain ahead finally forced us to jettison the airplane which leads to a completely new chapter to this story. It is important to note that our wounds were inflicted by ENEMY trees.
With best regards,
Kelly Irving, aka Misty 66
Posted by Kelly Irving on January 22,2013 | 06:33 PM
157 Misty pilots got 47 Silver Stars, the 3rd highest combat US decoration. Check out Misty Vietnam on the internet!
Posted by Mick Greene, Misty 30 on January 23,2013 | 10:01 PM
Heroic effort but not able to overcome the lack of guts in the military command at the highest levels and especially LBJ. Allowing Soviet freighters to unload in Haiphong and then picking off weapons by the truck load over the Trail was doomed to failure. We paid the price in thousands of dead in SVN. Even Nixon who ordered Operation Penny Packer, mining of Haiphong, harbor delayed until April 1972. The Soviets were forced to ship weapons over Siberia and China where the PLA appropriated for their needs. If Nixon could face up to Nikita in 1972, LBJ certainly could have done the same years earlier.
Posted by Roger Brown on January 24,2013 | 05:30 PM
My brother flew in the New Mexico Air Guard out of Tuy Hoa.
I have heard him speak of "Misty" and had nothing but praise for
this group! We are lucky to have this quality of men in our military!
John Bishop
Posted by John R Bishop on January 26,2013 | 12:34 PM
I was Public Affairs superintendent at Phu Cat when the Mistys started flying from there. What a great group of dedicated, skillful pilots!! I will always hold each of them dear and close to my heart!!
Posted by Larry C. Slaymaker on January 27,2013 | 05:20 PM
Forty Eight years, Air Traffic Control, Airfield Manager. Met many of the Nam pilots, launched a lot of them during Desert Storm. Trained Combat Controllers during Nam, have some great stories about them and the Misty Pilots. Pretty sure we could not do it again today. Maybe, but I have some very scary doubts about the backbone, the commitment and the bravery of todays fliers and controllers. Pray to God that we can weather the current storm we have in Washington and live to fly and fight another day.
Posted by Lawrence Bledsoe, CMSGT USAF (R) on January 28,2013 | 06:09 PM
Definitely-- the Air Force did one hell of a job over there and deserve all the praise given to them. BUT - there was another group over there that also hung their rear-ends out, and had few of them shot off - and have been completely ignored by the agencies that sent them there - and that was Air America. Many, after 20+ years of Military and Air America time, are now scraping along on Social Security.
How many Misty crew members have to say that?
Ed (E.G.) Adams Air America 1962/75
Posted by Ed Adams on January 28,2013 | 06:23 PM
I wanted to say to Kelly Irving and all the Misty pilots, crew, GIB's and support personnel- Thank You for your service. I know that Kelly's story of being shot down is representative of the courage of each and every one of those guys. I just wanted them to know that an average citizen like me remembers and values their service to our country. Thank you.
Rob McNeal
Posted by Rob McNeal on January 28,2013 | 06:35 PM
When I was in my junior year in high school, Needville, Texas, I received an appointment to the USAF Academy. I got busted for eye sight limits that are no longer in place.
I then went to Texas A&M College (now University), became the First Wing Commander in the Corp of Cadets. I got a commission. I was then stationed at WPAFB, Dayton, Ohio.
Subsequently, I did numerous short assignments but settled into an outfit that was developing aerial reconnaissance for low and high to orbital recon.
I have seen the X-15 launch from the B-52 over the Edwards AF test range several times to engage in a development of what I think was the Blackbird Recon Vehicle. After one of those missions, I saw the YF-12-A. I saw it the next morning outside the BOQ as it lunched from the runway. Tremendous!!
I have flown numerous missions at 50K altitude on near polar orbits, i.e., north to south with specified start and stop times from the Canadian border to the Mexican border of the USA. The RB-57B A/C I was navigating was painted all black except for white geometric patterns on the top side. Not much was above us except ?.
I have flown pressure suit some. Have seen the stars with the Sun against a totally black sky. Saw the curvature of the earth. Well above 50K.
Had I had good eyes early, I might have been planted in a rice field in Vietnam or been John McCain’s roommate.
Since those days, I have worked in NASA on Gemini , Skylab and Space Station. The US lab for micro-gravity has my thumb prints all over it.
Bottom line, I am just a little pissant in the scheme of life.
Posted by Kenneth J. Demel on January 28,2013 | 06:38 PM
I had the honor and privilege of attending a gathering of Dick Rutan and many Misty pilots at OSHKOSH in 2008. I will never forget the presentation, stories, bravery, and humbleness of these men. You need to mention the book "Bury Us Upside Down: The Misty Pilots and the Secret Battle for the Ho Chi Minh Trail". A chilling accounting of what they went through. My copy is a proud possession, signed by Dick Rutan.
One story that I still chuckle at is that they had to figure out what to do with poor gunners using antiaircraft fire. They could have taken them out, but it was thought best to leave them on the hillside, less someone more capable replaced them.
Posted by Karl Swenson on January 28,2013 | 07:08 PM
With all sincere respect and honor to your service, all, I am gravely disappointed with the apparent support of the current "regime" by McPeak.
Posted by Aerial Port on January 28,2013 | 07:25 PM
Let's hear from some people who served under McPeak when he was COS of the Air Force in the 90s when he couldn't make up his mind which uniform to force down the throats of the airman who had to suffer through his antics. Yes what a leader he was!! People are still trying to clean up his mess he made with the flyers and maintenance people. I can only hope when he reaches the afterlife that people like Gen LeMay other leaders who helped build the USAF are there to greet ole "Tony" and give him the party (blanket) he so deserves. nuf said!!
Dean McNew
Posted by Dean McNew on January 28,2013 | 07:26 PM
From June 1966 thru May, 1968 'we' always loved to 'Play Misty for me' (us). Although, as an Air America Pilot, which is why this email address is classified, we all shared something in common with the Jet Jocks. Washington had no balls. De Permissu Superiroum, Imprimater...Nihil Obstat But, in the end, it was stupid to begin with, after all. God bless the United States of America and all those who served her.
Posted by Jeremiah Flynn on January 28,2013 | 08:11 PM
No offense, Roger, but Nikita Sergeievich was ousted in 1964 by Leonid Brezhnev and Alexei Kosygin...LBJ was too damn cautious. Years later in an interview with David Frost, Nixon said his greatest regret of his Presidency was (not as one might imagine, Watergate) that he didn't bomb the crap out of North Vietnam earlier, as he did in December of 1972, after the North Vietnamese balked at complying with the terms of the recently concluded "Peace Talks", to which they'd already agreed. Nixon reportedly said "F.. Them", and bombed the shit out of them in Dec '72 (The so-called Christmas Bombing)...days later the North returned to Paris EAGER to accept the terms they'd already agreed to...Kinda like Democrats caught with their hands in a cookie jar.
Posted by Chris Brosnahan on January 28,2013 | 08:22 PM
Kelly Irving,
God Bless you and all the other guys who went up North. Truly the best of the best.
Posted by Dutch Hillenburg on January 28,2013 | 11:18 PM
Pat was my 4515th CCTS classmate at Luke, in 1968 and my roommate at TBuy Hoa AB, SVN. in 1969. He was a 355TFS pilot and subsequently, a Misty volunteer. I last spoke to him early in the morning of 02Nov 69 as he left our room to brief for his early go as Misty 31 ( one of two pilots per plane). I arrived at the Squadron (355 TFS) later in the AM, to brief for the day's mission. Much discussion and concern greeted me, as the Wing had a Misty over due... I cannot speculate on his fate, but I have read the subsequent unclassified accounts of search efforts and what might have occurred. Great pilot and a good friend.
Posted by Robert Draper on January 28,2013 | 02:38 AM
Occasionally, the Marines from MAG 11 and 12 worked with "Misty" out of Chu Lai. In early 1969, the Marines started their own version of the fast FAC and carried out the same mission under the "Playboy" call sign using the TA-4F. Several of the pilots from the two groups flew exchange missions.
Later, the Air Force came out with "Stormy" fast FAC's flying the F-4.
During this period, the O-1's, O-2's and OV-10's continued to control the jets in very hostile environments. At night, the O-2's were flying north in Laos. The sky would be lit up with the attempts to shoot them and the aircraft they were controlling. I don't know how they acquired the targets but the ground would be ablaze at times.
Posted by John Souders on January 29,2013 | 03:30 AM
Too bad we don't have as many of this type of man today.
Posted by Lewis B. Tripp on January 29,2013 | 10:22 AM
Most of the instructor pilots in my ANG unit were Misty FACs.
Posted by Bydand on January 29,2013 | 02:51 AM
On page 57 of the Air&Space March 2013 issue is a picture of Burt Rutan. The person closest to the camera with his hand on his hip is my brother, Wendell Snowden.
Wendell was a F-100 pilot, about this same time in Vietnam. Also, if you notice in his right hand is a martini glass. Must have been down time!
Larry Snowden
Farmington,Illinois
Posted by Larry W. Snowden on January 30,2013 | 11:23 AM
Bud Day never got the full recognition he deserves and guess why--politics. He never flinched at stepping on toes to get the job done, and he paid a price. After five years of hell he could step into a room of pilots and without a word everyone knew they would follow this man to hell and back.
Posted by Jim Shay on January 30,2013 | 02:14 PM
My compliments on an excellent article by Mark Bernstein. If you want a little more to the story, I highly recommend MGen USAF(Ret)Don Sheppard's book titled "Misty", a humorous and riveting account from the pilot's themselves. The Misty FACs truly represent the best of the Air Force.
Per Ardua Ad Astra
Posted by John Tryon on January 30,2013 | 03:55 PM
Very interesting reading and a great article. As a fighter crew chief I'd be interested in reading about some of the maintainers who got those aircraft into flying condition on a daily basis. A truly titanic undertaking in many ways. Without them the pilots would've had nothing to do!
Posted by RWagle on January 30,2013 | 05:52 PM
In May 1968 I arrived at Cam Rahn Bay to start my second tour with the 5th Special Forces but I got pulled out and was sent to Pleiku to the 173rd Airborne. After about a week I got on a c130 for a flight to Bong Son. I joined the 3rd 503rd 173rd Airborne. A few weeks later we loaded onto some trucks and headed South to Bao Loc. At dark we pulled into the Air Base at Phu Cat to spend the night. The base Commander sent one of his flunkies out to tell the Capt. to get that bunch of filth off of his Base. Myself and two others heard some music playing so we walked into an officers club with a machine gun and m16s. It got very quiet as the juke box was unplugged and the man behind the bar asked us if he could help us. DeLoach was so black all yopu could see was his eyeballs and in his deep Lousiana voice he said yeah man you got any sodas. How many do you want? We need about 4 cases. He put them on the bar and as we were getting our money out a pilot walked up shook our hands and said these are on us. We loaded on the trucks and were taken out to the end of a runway and we drank our cokes and listened to jets take off and land all night. We left the next morning for Bao Loc.
Posted by Don Ashley on January 30,2013 | 10:59 PM
I have high respect for the Misty's; however, it is tiresome to read that "they laid the groundwork for future tactics." I would remind all that the 6147th Tactical Control Group in Korea, nicknamed the Mosquitos, laid the ground work. If you doubt, go to their website and read their history. Their accomplishments were outstanding. When I read page 4 of this article, it was like reading about the Mosquitos. Again, I take nothing away from the Mistys, an outstanding Group. I love to kid my classmate Don Jones, a former Misty commander, that they did the same things we Mosquitos did in Korea, only faster, as they flew jets. God Bless the Misty's and all their personnel, there are none better.
Posted by William Bell on January 31,2013 | 03:15 PM
This is great to hear the interest in the Misty's, a great group of pilots who risked all to save as many guys on the ground as possible. AND remember who kept them flying, the maintainers!
They worked 24/7 under lousy weather conditions to ensure the mission was and remained on schedule every day.
Impressive job maintainers! Lets hear from you.
Mike Dean
"HUN" Maintainers Association
MVDean [at] verizon [dot] net
Posted by Mike Dean on February 1,2013 | 08:39 PM
I maintained the HUN in the 136 TFS in Tuy Hoa. I did a lot of ALERT duty, scrambling off the birds. I was in the revetment working on one but went to get a new tire when it was hit by a sapper in July 29, 1968. A couple of our guys got some schrapnel. I watched the c-47 gunships do their thing. The pilots were great on ALERT and treated the crew chiefs pretty well, even partied with us. Being an ANG squadron, we had "Rocky's Raiders" on the nose( Nelson Rockefeller was gov of NY at the time). I worked nights the whole time there, and that was the maintenance shift, pulling engines, aft sections, doing tires, brakes, LOX, etc. The curious thing is that when I got home, I eventually wound up in the DCMA Agency and one of the guys I had to audit was my former Commander, Col. Dusty Donner at Bell Aerospace. And my Line chief in Tuy Hoa, now worked for me. I still work at DCMA, and was an Honoree at Space Shuttle STS -135 launch. A lot of that had to do with my HUN experience.
Posted by Tom Ciura on February 20,2013 | 04:50 PM
I was a crewchief on 837 (now at the museum at Dayton Ohio)at TuyHoa 1969-1970.Col, Buttlman PILOT. aka. CROME DOME
Posted by Huey Johnson on February 28,2013 | 04:31 PM
The Misty Mystique was an interesting and informative article until tainted by political overtones. (which have no place in Journalism) A writer is supposed to be unbiased. Mark Bernstein's reference to the "2004 Vietnam veterans in an ad attacking presidential candidate John Kerry." Has no place in this article. These brave pilots were flying their missions and that is what is important.
John Kerry did his part as well being wounded, and not having the luxury of flying back to base for hot showers, hot meals, and drinks in the officers club.
Stick to the stories purpose and the facts. Keep politics out of it. If I wanted to read about politics I would pick up some rag.
Sincerely,
RMWilson
B.ed, MA Communications (Journalism)
Posted by RMWilson on April 7,2013 | 02:19 PM