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Having been an engineer assigned to the F/RF-4 from 1962 thru 1991, when I retired, I wonder if anyone can tell me if the F-4 still holds the worlds three kilometer course, low altitude high speed record set on 28 August 1961 ? It was called "SAGEBURNER', achieved 902.769 MPH, MACH 1.2 at no more than 125 feet max altitude.

Mr. Mattson: I actually saw "Sageburner" at the Paul E. Garber Restoration and Storage Facility in what then was Silver Hill, Md. in August 1981. So I doubt it's been disposed of. It has not made it into public display yet. It definitely wasn't in the National Air & Space Museum nor the Udvar-Hazy Center when my family and I visited in late December 2005.

Darryl Greenamyer set a new record of 998 mph in the F-104 that he restored. He did it 80 feet over Mud Lake near Tonapah, NV, in 1977. I used to fly the F-4, F-105, and F-111. In the F-111F, we routinely flew 700-800 knots at 200 feet. We could go much faster, but the wingman has to have some extra throttle available, and we wanted to avoid using the afterburner to save fuel. We could have broken the record (and I'm sure it was done many times), but my understanding is that the US Services will not claim a record if it is currently held by a US civilian.

I cut my "maintainer teeth" on the Marine Corps Phantom F-4B, F-4J and F-4S aircraft before transitioning the Corps to the F/A-18A, C and D. The "Triple Nickel" series were my most prized aircraft and my guys and I put a lot of TLC in keeping those birds in the air. They were sometimes maintenance nightmares but seeing them in air-to-air or air-to-mud missions was definately a sight to behold.

I was a Phantom Phixer for 10 years on F4Ms (FGR2) with the RAF. I agree they were maintenance nightmares sometimes but they were definitely mean machines. Of all the aircraft I worked on I still hold the F4 in the highest esteem. It was a sad day when the UK scrapped them.

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